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American Audio HDT 4.5 review
American Audio HDT 4.5 review
Posted by Gizmo on November 13, 2004 :


Good decks are few and far between and slowly but surely, sw_smilie.png is getting them all covered - in this case the American Audio HDT 4.5. ProfessorBX take a long hard look at this deck and likes what he sees.

Check out BX's review here. And of course massive thanks to Stevie Ray for the pictures.


NOTE: No further comments are being accepted.
53 comments to this story

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On November 14, 2004, Rocks said this:
How much do these run for? Good Review

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On November 14, 2004, Soba said this:
dope, i sure wouldn't mind one of these puppies for my setup

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On November 14, 2004, Sim from Berlin said this:
this is the same turntable as the reloop rp 6000 . it was released years ago! you can see them at www.reloopdj.com . i myself have a reloop rp5000 and its waaay cheaper and better than a technics 1210 .

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On November 14, 2004, lamont said this:
I'm getting another set of OEM turntables soon ...SYNQ! They're just as good!

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On November 14, 2004, LKJ said this:
http://djskilz.com/videos/skilzclip1.wmv

heres a little demo for you guys ^_^

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On November 14, 2004, Gizmo said this:
Lol - I'm actually in that video. That was in Frankfurt at MusikMesse.

Omnitronic DD-5250, Citronic PD45, AA HDT4.5, Reloop RP6000 and the SYNQ XTRM1 - all the same rebadged OEM decks.

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On November 14, 2004, Peeti=V said this:
I am wondering how this would compare to a numark tt-500?

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On November 14, 2004, unkutt said this:
that means that this review goes for all of the above mentined decks, right?

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On November 14, 2004, Gizmo said this:
Unless anyone can tell us if there are any subtle differences then yes - I would think this review would cover the others as well. It's just that American Audio were very kind and sent BX a deck to play with. Big thanks to them and especially to Stevie Ray for the photos. smile.gif

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On November 14, 2004, LKJ said this:
dont forget the Stanton str-8 150...the pricey version of the OEM (which stanton added a few more features on it, like a straight arm)

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On November 15, 2004, minty said this:
Isn't the HTD 4.5 the same thing as the STR8-150??? wacko.gif

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On November 15, 2004, minty said this:
Wait wait wait this is why this turntable is only $300 because everyone is selling it...

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On November 15, 2004, blah said this:
rolleyes.gif

hush narrowminded boy.

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On November 15, 2004, wozza said this:
Right the difference is ...... They all come from different production lines but are made in the same factory.
The Stantons have line 1, citronic line 2, i would guess american audio on line 3 and KAM on line 4 (as a guess again) then the rest on the other lines.
The Stanton deck is the top of the range and adds the straight tone arm (which is all important), the digital features, a better body, different pitch select (8,25 and 50% instead of 10,20 and 50% so you can get slightly more accurecy on the Stantons)and different buttons. As you can see sometimes you have to struggle to see the differences between them but they are there and do make for a better turntable.
I have used the Citronic pd45 ultima a far bit now and own Stantons (I got a fantastic deal otherwise i would have Citronics) and think the Citronics etc are a steal at the price, they are amazing decks, IMO better then Technics by far.

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On November 15, 2004, Antwan said this:
Good call wozza
I've used both aswell and totally agree

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On November 15, 2004, weaksauce said this:
so hang on then...which ones should we look for in the uk and how much to pay?

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On November 15, 2004, Antwan said this:
Considering everything, I recon the PD-45 is the best option.
Citronic customer service is excellent compared to some of the other brands.
Seen them going for 249 each from my local dj store. Bargain!!!!!! 8)

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On November 15, 2004, Antwan said this:
Thats the Mk2 version & is piano black. NICE!!!!

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On November 15, 2004, DJStevieRay said this:
If you have any questions, post them up. I will also post up or send Giz some vids showing the torque. Yes a bunch of people have pretty much the same OEM models. But a few things that make American Audio's stand out......
1) The sexy black finish
2) A 2 year (not 1 year warranty)
3) A Great support department. I can vouch for AA's support being top notched. I have even seen them fix things that were broke from abuse, and even out of warranty. Not allot of manufacturers will stand behind their products that much.

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On November 15, 2004, opera said this:
HI

Why the 8? Why not give this deck a 9 or a 9.5? Which deck get a 10, cause you must have a comparison chart or anything. Without such a chart, there would be no point in reviewing.

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On November 15, 2004, Gizmo said this:
I have another clip of DJ Skilz on the HDT's - this time from PLASA 2004. Notice at around 1.10 into the clip how he notices he's being filmed...

and then realises it's that Gizmo bloke from sw_smilie.png behind the camera...

Anyway, the 11meg clip is here.

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On November 15, 2004, djstevieray said this:
Giz,
That's great, do you mind if I post a link for "our" forum members to download?

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On November 16, 2004, djstevieray said this:
Here are some torque video's if anyone wants to see. They are in a Quick Time format, so you will need QT to view them. I took them with my standard vid camera, if you guys want something better let me know.

StevieRay's video's

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On November 16, 2004, Gizmo said this:
Stevie Ray - Link to whatever you want! And good work on the movies as well!! :D 8)

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On November 16, 2004, Big Perm said this:
I think the main thing here is the platter. Does the freakin platter end up getting loose and wobbling? If so, then you are wasting your time and money. Yes all of those tables are good and solid at the beginning but after about 2 months or maybe even sooner, the platter starts to get loose and it starts to feel like a plastic piece of crap that you assembled yourself. If you want to feel a solid platter then check out the Technics. You run over that platter in your car and it will still stay tight and solid. I am also a firm believer that you should just hold off and save your money for some Technics or Vestax than go spending your $200 or $300 on some crap! Just remember that used Technics are better than alot of these turntables. I'm out!

text(SLOW IT DOWN AND CHOP IT UP BABY)

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On November 16, 2004, weaksauce said this:
there's a lot of references on this site to running over equipment in cars/trucks/jeeps. is this where i'm going wrong? (i don't drive)

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On November 16, 2004, DJStevieRay said this:
Perm,
That's allot of hostility toward a product you haven't tried. If you want I will put one of my technics behind one tire of my Durango, and a HTD behind the other one, and back over them and see if either still works. But I'm not a rich man, for me to try this test, I must request you forward $800 to my bank account in the rare case I may need to replace either unit. BTW. I have had my HTD's for about 3 months, and I think BX was working on this test for about 4. I haven't had any platter problems yet.

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On November 16, 2004, professorbx said this:
The platters are still rock solid, and I have had the tables for about 4.5 months, with an average of at least an hour of scratching a day. I really wouldn't worry.

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On November 16, 2004, Gizmo said this:
Perhaps we should incorporate a destruction test in the reviews. We could run over the gear with a variety of vehicles starting with skateboards and working our way up to a Hummer.

I truly question any deck surviving after being run over by a car. Hell many don't make it from the store via a courier. push.gif

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On November 16, 2004, rasbill said this:
I FUCKIN HATE Verbatim Digital Vinyl CDR they fuckin suck wont burn wont read, fuckin more expensive then some good ass maxells im so fuckin pissed i spend 50 bucks on these fuckin shitty cds!!!!!!!

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On November 16, 2004, DJStevieRay said this:
Umm OK weird.gif Yeah I don't like those CDR's either since...........

THEY DON'T WORK WITH MY HTD's THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT! :P

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On November 17, 2004, Deft said this:
Random comment award goes to rasbill wacko.gif

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On November 17, 2004, rasbill said this:
im just so pissed i got these fuckin useless cds when i NEEEDED them and now i gotta wait till next week to get ones that work

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On November 17, 2004, LKJ said this:
No surprise, a random 12fan spamming this thread with Technics...American Audio has a great table...no doubt.

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On November 17, 2004, Antwan said this:
There's always 1 weird.gif

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On November 17, 2004, LKJ said this:
yup push.gif

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On November 17, 2004, flesh o.n.e. said this:
nice review bx. you got any pics of the guts with the platter off? or of the underside of the platter (where the magnet is connected)? not a big deal really, i'm just curious to see more of the construction.

people, meaning non-scratch type people, keep asking me which table in the cheaper range of tables is the best quality...but i haven't found anything in this price range i could recommend. this one looks pretty good.

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On November 17, 2004, DrewDJ said this:
eh, for carrying long mixes i dont know how well i would be able to stand it. When you put your finger on the side of the platter to pitch bend it tries to "fight back" when you release. I never understood why companies don't recess the platter like the 12s. That's the one thing that feels great about them. nevermind, i lied. there are about 120 things that feel great about them.

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On November 17, 2004, Deft said this:
Technics fight resistance to platter movement as well though?

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On November 17, 2004, Drako'99 said this:
I own 2 Citronic PD-45 since October 2003 and theses turntables make me really happy.

I payed them only 350 each as I bought them in Gerrmany, and at that price, no other turntables were looking that great.

I used them for scratching but essentially mixing Drum'n Bass and after more that one year and maybe 1000km they're still working perfectly...

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On November 17, 2004, Antwan said this:
I prefer platters that fight back & to be honest all D/Drives should, isn't that the whole idea!!!

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On November 17, 2004, DJSTevieRay said this:
"nice review bx. you got any pics of the guts with the platter off? or of the underside of the platter (where the magnet is connected)? not a big deal really, i'm just curious to see more of the construction. "

I'll get those pics up for you. As far as long mixes. They hold the pitch very well. As far as the platter fighting to keep it's speed up. It does pull allot harder than Tech's do, and it takes a bit to get used too. But it does hold long mixes very well. I did a trance mix on these tables not to long ago. Now even though a few of these tracks are old. They were all new to me at the time. So I was flying blind, but it gives you a bit of an ideal. There are some trainwrecks, but that is more because of my abilities, and not the tables......I can trainwreck just as well with techs too :P

Trance Mix

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On November 17, 2004, r2de2 said this:
can u put a video with skratching...
oh.gif sw_smilie.png

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On November 17, 2004, DJStevieRay said this:
me? not really.....I'm worst than giz weird.gif :D

Look up a bit, and click on the vid of DJ Skilz. He can scratch a little 8)

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On November 17, 2004, spencer said this:
I want to hear more about the STR8-150!

Where is that review? Im thinkin about getting one, but have also heard that there are other decks coming soon and to wait a bit. You guys know anything about any new stuff? And do you have plans to review the STR8-150?

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On November 18, 2004, Gizmo said this:
I've now got a contact for Stanton gear in the UK. So I need to progress getting some gear. We really need to cover the STR8-150 and the SA5.

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On November 18, 2004, spencer said this:
Please do Gizmo. I have heard so much good and little bad about the str8-150. Although not from as good a source as this place.

And I like the new look of the home page, but it felt more homey seein that little Gizmo every time I got here. Can you work him back into the site somewhere? I still have my Gremlins tin lunchbox I used when I was in 2nd Grade. Giz on one side, and Stripe on the other.

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On November 18, 2004, d-dub said this:
i've had my eyes on these decks for quite a while now. hopefully they will fulfill my needs. thanx for the review. the new title page kicks some ass. do you have that logo in vector art?? i would like to make a banner of it above my setup at home.

d-dub

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On November 18, 2004, Gizmo said this:
Spencer - I'm sure Gizmo will pop up from time to time on the site. I just fear film company lawyers swooping for my blood with copyright lawsuits.

d-dub - if you like that, you'll love the rest of the new site. Just putting finishing touches to it and it'll be released before Christmas. I do have that logo and it's other variants as vector art, but they're staying with me until it's all up and released.

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On November 19, 2004, farquare said this:
you wont be dissapointed by the sa5 if you get hold of 1, my only critisism is the paint on the face wears really quick (as if that matters) the linear fader eq's are ace and i cant see why you'd ever want to use rotary's after having sliders - opens up so many more possibilities. 8)

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On December 14, 2004, Graft said this:
Saw American Audio HDT 4.5: love.gif
Saw shipping cost from USA to Norway: :cry:

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On February 23, 2005, Quartz said this:
Is Reloop the original manufacturer of the technology these decks are based on?

I'm just curious who is making this platform that Citronic, AA, Stanton, Synq, Reloop & Omnitronic are using.

PS: I have spun with the AA's and they are strong! But I was sold on the ST-150's myself for various reasons.







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